R. Stanley Williams, whose team discovered the memristor (the fourth fundamental circuit element) gives us a quick whiteboard talk about how the device works.
@Kingsamuelson: I … @Kingsamuelson: I believe they use AC current to read the state of the memristor, since AC would only cause the layers oscillate between two sizes of thickness, and not move the layer to either side as DC current.
It’s not overhyped … It’s not overhyped and it actually works. The fundamental properties of memristors were proven mathematically by Leon O. Chua forty years ago. As to its significance in computing, while you may not perceive a memristor crossbar doing the work of transistors strung together to physically perform logic, the idea Williams is currently discussing is a multi-layer hybrid chip with a transistor-type base addressing all the memristor layers. There’s also photonic interconnect for future designs…
Actually, its … Actually, its overhyped. The guy spent years of research trying to find some great discovery and didnt find much, but because hes human hes gonna overhype it. If you apply a voltage to change the resistance of one of these switches, well that is useless because when you want to READ the information there, ur going to need to apply a voltage to see whether its open or closed, meaning its absolutely useless!
@noobenstein and @ … @noobenstein and @ drstupidistake why are you two arguing on youtube like a couple of retards? How about you contact this scientist and have the argument with him… fawk.. this thing is really interesting tho..
@noobenstein This … @noobenstein This isn’t moving protons around, it’s just moving electrons. The voltage applied (or lack thereof) shifts up or down the fermi level of the wide bandgap semiconductor they’re using (TiO2). This is what Mr Williams refers to when he says he is “expanding” the p-type region; the shifting of the fermi level down due to the applied potential essentially makes the p-type region of the TiO2 larger.
You mentioned knowing basic science. That seems to be as much as you will ever know.
Besides the … Besides the monstrous task of changing how we develop software for this, there’s the problem of titanium and platinum being much more expensive than silicon.
@noobenstein Sure … @noobenstein Sure memristors do exactly what transistors do…but they are passive, nonvolatile elements that use less energy and are approx. 1/15 the size of a transistor (3nm vs. 45nm). These are the future of electronics, they will provide us the technology to essentially combine the RAM and HD components of modern computers. As far as reliability goes, HP is in the process of creating a 20GB solid state device the size of a sugar cube…expand your research beyond YouTube
Good information/ … Good information/Presentation, Mr. Williams..keep up the good! I’ll be watching for new progress on “Memristor” with you and Mr. Leon O. Chua in mind.
But what I don’t … But what I don’t understand is how did Prof Williams overcome the retrogresive zimmer effect to make the thing work in the first place.
@noobenstein … @noobenstein Actually, a transistor, the atom of the processor, is based on “moving parts” just as much as this memristor. Electronics rely on controlled electron movement.
@noobenstein There … @noobenstein There aren’t moving parts though, the change is simply brought about by moving the electron deficenty. The memristor is like a combination of a transistor and a resistor, so you are able to do computations and store memory.
I don’t know if … I don’t know if this man is telling the truth, or not, but breakthroughs are often made in a different manner than this man describes. Usually, some phenomenon is discovered, then applications are invented. The way this guy tells the story is surprising. They wanted to do X, and then invented Y to do X. Doesn’t ring true.
Furthermore, I can’t tell from this video how this discovery is significantly different from a crossbar utilizing semiconductor FETs, except, perhaps, in the physical size
yeah.. this has … yeah.. this has about as much moving parts as a say a Electrolytic capacitor and we all know that those are bad idea… yo clearly don’t know about how electric components work.
Stan Williams was … Stan Williams was working on the idea when some showed him Leon Chua’s paper that illustrated the same idea back in 1971. Oh, noobenstien, much of your electronic components are chemistry related. The memristor will revolutionize electronic engineering int 21st century the same way transistors revolutionized amplifiers in the 1950s which soon lead to integrated circuits the we know today.
hahaha
This … hahaha
This discovery is interesting, but I think they are trying to sell it, more than showing it to the scientific community.
Anyway, if it’s commercially possible, that will give a real boost to nanoelectronics, and a longer life to Moore’s Law.
Excuse me, but Stan … Excuse me, but Stan Williams of HP Labs did not invent Memristor or even develop the idea. Leon Chua of the Philippines did it. I have no doubt Prof. Chua will someday be credited for such invention and will receive a nobel prize for such accomplishment. Wait for a major breakthrough in the next few years that will change everything what we know.
R. Stanley Williams, whose team discovered the memristor (the fourth fundamental circuit element) gives us a quick whiteboard talk about how the device works.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@Kingsamuelson: I …
@Kingsamuelson: I believe they use AC current to read the state of the memristor, since AC would only cause the layers oscillate between two sizes of thickness, and not move the layer to either side as DC current.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
wow my mind is …
wow my mind is blown. Those EE guys are geniuses
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
It’s not overhyped …
It’s not overhyped and it actually works. The fundamental properties of memristors were proven mathematically by Leon O. Chua forty years ago. As to its significance in computing, while you may not perceive a memristor crossbar doing the work of transistors strung together to physically perform logic, the idea Williams is currently discussing is a multi-layer hybrid chip with a transistor-type base addressing all the memristor layers. There’s also photonic interconnect for future designs…
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Actually, its …
Actually, its overhyped. The guy spent years of research trying to find some great discovery and didnt find much, but because hes human hes gonna overhype it. If you apply a voltage to change the resistance of one of these switches, well that is useless because when you want to READ the information there, ur going to need to apply a voltage to see whether its open or closed, meaning its absolutely useless!
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@noobenstein and @ …
@noobenstein and @ drstupidistake why are you two arguing on youtube like a couple of retards? How about you contact this scientist and have the argument with him… fawk.. this thing is really interesting tho..
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@noobenstein This …
@noobenstein This isn’t moving protons around, it’s just moving electrons. The voltage applied (or lack thereof) shifts up or down the fermi level of the wide bandgap semiconductor they’re using (TiO2). This is what Mr Williams refers to when he says he is “expanding” the p-type region; the shifting of the fermi level down due to the applied potential essentially makes the p-type region of the TiO2 larger.
You mentioned knowing basic science. That seems to be as much as you will ever know.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Besides the …
Besides the monstrous task of changing how we develop software for this, there’s the problem of titanium and platinum being much more expensive than silicon.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
telescope fail
telescope fail
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@noobenstein Sure …
@noobenstein Sure memristors do exactly what transistors do…but they are passive, nonvolatile elements that use less energy and are approx. 1/15 the size of a transistor (3nm vs. 45nm). These are the future of electronics, they will provide us the technology to essentially combine the RAM and HD components of modern computers. As far as reliability goes, HP is in the process of creating a 20GB solid state device the size of a sugar cube…expand your research beyond YouTube
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Good information/ …
Good information/Presentation, Mr. Williams..keep up the good! I’ll be watching for new progress on “Memristor” with you and Mr. Leon O. Chua in mind.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
But what I don’t …
But what I don’t understand is how did Prof Williams overcome the retrogresive zimmer effect to make the thing work in the first place.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@drstupidistaken
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@drstupidistaken
Nope. Electrons don’t count as “moving parts”. At least not when it comes to mechanical wear and tear and general stability of the substance.
Moving atoms around is an entirely another thing. That does actually make the substance weaker.
Go ask someone else who knows about basic science…
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@noobenstein …
@noobenstein Actually, a transistor, the atom of the processor, is based on “moving parts” just as much as this memristor. Electronics rely on controlled electron movement.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
great… one new …
great… one new topic for EEE next sem….
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@noobenstein There …
@noobenstein There aren’t moving parts though, the change is simply brought about by moving the electron deficenty. The memristor is like a combination of a transistor and a resistor, so you are able to do computations and store memory.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I don’t know if …
I don’t know if this man is telling the truth, or not, but breakthroughs are often made in a different manner than this man describes. Usually, some phenomenon is discovered, then applications are invented. The way this guy tells the story is surprising. They wanted to do X, and then invented Y to do X. Doesn’t ring true.
Furthermore, I can’t tell from this video how this discovery is significantly different from a crossbar utilizing semiconductor FETs, except, perhaps, in the physical size
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@simanick89 No, you …
@simanick89 No, you don’t know shit.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
yeah.. this has …
yeah.. this has about as much moving parts as a say a Electrolytic capacitor and we all know that those are bad idea… yo clearly don’t know about how electric components work.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Stan Williams was …
Stan Williams was working on the idea when some showed him Leon Chua’s paper that illustrated the same idea back in 1971. Oh, noobenstien, much of your electronic components are chemistry related. The memristor will revolutionize electronic engineering int 21st century the same way transistors revolutionized amplifiers in the 1950s which soon lead to integrated circuits the we know today.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
@Herooftimex Smart …
@Herooftimex Smart people don’t need to take anyone’s word. Just analyse if the statements make sense.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
@noobenstein you …
@noobenstein you didnt discover it, he did. ill take the word of the scientist from HP as fact, not yours.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
hahaha
This …
hahaha
This discovery is interesting, but I think they are trying to sell it, more than showing it to the scientific community.
Anyway, if it’s commercially possible, that will give a real boost to nanoelectronics, and a longer life to Moore’s Law.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Moving parts are …
Moving parts are never a good thing. Moving molecules around? That sounds really unstable. That’s almost doing chemistry.
these devices won’t be reliable.
Also, “memristor”… is equal to something using transistors. So it doesn’t let us do something we can’t already do.
Yes it’s more efficient in terms of space. But until they can do this by only moving voltages, or charge… it’s going to be failiure prone.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
lame.
lame.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Excuse me, but Stan …
Excuse me, but Stan Williams of HP Labs did not invent Memristor or even develop the idea. Leon Chua of the Philippines did it. I have no doubt Prof. Chua will someday be credited for such invention and will receive a nobel prize for such accomplishment. Wait for a major breakthrough in the next few years that will change everything what we know.